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Welcome to Episode 2 of the Light UK Podcast.

In this episode, we share our personal testimonies — what life looked like before Jesus, how we encountered Him, and how He completely transformed our lives.

In this episode we talk about:

  • Growing up in Uganda and the UK
  • Life before Christ
  • Identity, brokenness, and searching for meaning
  • Radical encounters with God
  • Hunger for His Word
  • Transformation through salvation
  • Why sharing the gospel matters

If you’re searching, struggling, or wondering if God is real — this episode is for you.

Jesus is alive. He still saves. He still heals. He still transforms.

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SPEAKER_00

Welcome everybody.

SPEAKER_01

This is the Light UK Podcast.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to Light UK Podcasts. I'm Josh.

SPEAKER_01

I'm Sarah. Welcome back, guys.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah,

Why we’re sharing our testimonies

SPEAKER_00

welcome back. And so on this next podcast, we're going to be just sharing our testimonies. Um just so that you can get to know how we came to know the Lord. How we've uh how the Lord's changed us. Because you know, there's power in testimonies. And so we're really hoping that these will encourage you and bless you guys. And so I want to start by saying, Sarah, what was your upbringing? My upbringing.

SPEAKER_01

So many people think I was born from the I was born in the UK, which is a which is fine. But I actually grew up in Uganda. Oh, okay. I was born in Uganda and um Kate and I was born in Uganda and then as a young girl we moved over to the UK. Um in Uganda I remember I had I had little encounters with the Lord, you know, like maybe I thought I, you know, just I had a sense of the spiritual, but um, it wasn't until I came to the UK in 2001 that I remember telling my parents, I want to go to church. I want to go to church. Um, I had such a hunger to go to church, and I wasn't even um, I don't know whether the word is saved, because I I used to go to church as a child in Uganda and I have an experience of um going to church in Uganda. I remember we have food afterwards. Um and so I think when I came here, I just had that desire, and I don't know where that came from. Um, and so we did start going to church actually for a while, my parents and me, and and um we went. And also I went when I got to this country, obviously I went to primary school, and then I went to the Church of England school, and they re my one of their requirements is that I had to go to church, and so I we went to church. Um uh St. Paul's that's quite close to me, and um, yeah, not a good reason to go to church, but we started going anyway, and then that's how I kind of was started going to church once I came to this country, and um, but then somehow, somewhere you kind of lose track of God and just kind of started doing my own thing really as a teenager.

SPEAKER_00

Okay,

Sarah’s teenage years before Christ

SPEAKER_00

and so yeah, tell us about your teenage years and tell us about a little bit of what you were what your life was like before you came to know Jesus.

SPEAKER_01

So my teenage years were interesting. I you know what? I I know I wasn't saved. Well, I know that I didn't have a have a revelation of the gospel, but I remember I would pray to God, and I guess non-believers do pray to God, and you know he's such a good God that I do remember him, he answered a lot of my prayers, even though I didn't know who Jesus was, I didn't have a relationship with Jesus. I would see I would pray and see God actually come through for me. Um so I so I thought I was actually a Christian, believe it or not, back then, as in my teens and even in my 20s, and I um I remember obviously I started hanging around with other people, and you know, company does challenge it, does change you, it does, it can corrupt you as well. And so I got into some things, you know, um drinking, boys, um weed, you know. I tried all those things, and everyone's always shocked when I tell them that. But um, yeah, there's you know, that's just where I was. Um, loved school though, loved education. I took that very seriously. I always had this sense of God, like I'm gonna do something great. Um, and I realized that was actually something that God had put in me. Um so my life with Jesus, looking back, very lost. You know, there's without Jesus, you're lost. I don't care how happy you are, how amazing your how much your parents love you, if you don't know him, there's something missing because the Bible says that in him we were created by him and for him, you know. And so I was very lost.

SPEAKER_00

Um did you feel like you were searching for something that you were trying to fill that void? Because that's what often that's what often people can say is what you know when they're not following Jesus, they feel empty inside, or they're trying to fill it with the next thing, or whether it's materialistic things or drinking or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01

Did you oh absolutely? Um, I definitely definitely for me when it came to approval with my friends, you know, um, and I remember I I remember I actually was so hungry and I um did things I shouldn't have done, but I just remember just sometimes like I remember by the time I kind of got to uni um or before uni, I bought a Bible. So I had a Bible next to me, and I'd always put the Bible right next to my bed. I got a tattoo of the cross because I knew that's the one thing I wouldn't regret. So it's interesting because it's interesting because I've I kind of kind of sort of knew God, but I kind of didn't, because to to put a cross on your body, you must have a conviction of some sort. Um and um I really wish I knew Jesus when I was a young child. I really wish I did. So um yeah, and then it wasn't until I think I was searching more in uni when life started to become real.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, and so you were at university now, and you've said, you know, you had a Bible with you, you've had a tattoo of a cross. And so, what how did you come to know that Jesus was real? How what when did you first well when did you encounter him? When was that moment that your life seemed to change?

Sarah’s encounter with Jesus through Joyce Meyer

SPEAKER_01

So, just to backtrack before, I had a friend of mine a few years earlier that got saved, and I remember she was different, and she was radical, and she was always in church, she was always reading her Bible, and I thought, what's happened to her? And she would always listen to this woman called Joyce Meyer, and she shared a video with me to listen to her, and I thought, you know, at the time Joyce Meyer, if you're watching this, this you know, but I thought her voice sounded a bit too like it was too um manly for me, and that's a very, you know, that was very judgmental. And I remember thinking, oh, I'm not listening to that. Um, anyway, fast forward now back to university. I remember I had broken up with another guy, you know, because my worth and value, I think, for me was in relationships, in approval, in being loved. Um and so, and I remember just I had broken up with another guy, I was in my university room, and I just remember, darling, having this feeling very depressed, but having this sense put on Joyce Meyer, and I couldn't have had that for myself because she's not someone I want to listen to anyway. I put on Joyce Meyer and I put on this teaching series Battlefield of the Mind, because for me that was my biggest struggle, my mind, you know, and and um I'll share more about that in many podcasts later, and how God has even helped me, even as a Christian, to deal with thoughts. But I remember I um I put her on, and I don't know, I God used it to grip me, babe. He gripped me. She said things about the Holy Spirit, and it's interesting because I look back now and I heard about the Holy Spirit and God living in you, and she didn't she didn't even give an article or even share the death, burial, and the resurrection. But I remember thinking, What? Who's this Holy Spirit? What do you mean God loves me? I had never heard anything like that before. No one had ever told me that God loves me, no one had ever told me that God wants to live in me. For me, actually, it was that it was the fact that God wants to be that close to me. And I remember um I watched one series after the other, sorry, one episode after the other, and there were one hour episodes. And when you're not born, when you're not a Christian, or when you are not hungry, how can you listen to four hours worth of teaching? And so, babe, I got down on my knees, lifted up my hands, and said, I love you, I love you, I believe in you, I believe in you. And um, and that was it. That was it. Afterwards, I became the Lord encountered me, the Lord touched me, He filled me with His Holy Spirit, He did a work in me that I couldn't have done for myself, and afterwards I was a completely different person, and the next day it was like it was I was like literally I I came from darkness to light, from death to life, and it was like the whole world was filled with colour.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. Wow, yeah, wow, that's uh that's beautiful.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that was it.

What changed after salvation

SPEAKER_00

Um and so yeah, when you after you came to this Jesus and you said that you uh were filled with light and uh life, and you said you saw all different colours, what was some of the how would you say that your life was changed over those coming months and years?

SPEAKER_01

That's a good question. I was in love with everything. Uh the trees looked beautiful. Um I go I went home and I I was in I was just everyone was just the the world I was I was drunk in love with Jesus. Wow. I was drunk in love with him and I would read the Bible for hours. I mean five hours at a time, so hungry for him. I wanted to know him. I was so my spirit was like it was it had been starving for God, and now I've got him, I wanted all of him. Um started going to church, started serving, started doing all the things that you know you do for Jesus, and um, and then um afterwards I kind of became a leader and started on my journey in intimacy with the Lord, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Wow, yeah, what an awesome testimony. Um yeah, praise the Lord, what an amazing testimony, and um yeah, it's just amazing to see how hungry how when you after you encountered him, how hungry you were for him, very and how you just wanted to yeah, just to know him, and as you say, reading the Bible for five four or five hours at a time, yeah. My dad was worried, and uh yeah, that's just uh that beautiful that you had such a hunger and such a first love.

SPEAKER_01

And and do you know, and do you know that you know my parents noticed that something was different? My dad was like, you know, you're reading the Bible as if you're in as if you're studying for like a PhD or a master's degree. And because you know, when somebody changes, you know, when someone encounters Jesus, really encounters the Lord. There has to be a change. You can't stay the same because you can't encounter Jesus and stay the same. The only people that stay the same are the people that didn't believe in him, right? But the people that did believe in him, they are they were radically, radically changed. And so I was radically changed, and you know, it's been a journey, and I've grown a lot in intimacy, I've grown a lot in my walk with him, and I've become such a different person. That's why when I tell people the things that I used to do, they're like, What? What do you mean? But um, you know, it's it's what he does. God is God is amazing and he changes us, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Wow, praise the Lord. Wow, that's amazing to hear just what God has done in your did has done in your life, and just to see how the transformation that's taken place. And it's just amazing to hear how hungry you were when you were reading the word for four or five hours a day, and you just, as you said, you were so in love with him you couldn't get enough of him, and it's just such a beautiful testimony to hear.

SPEAKER_01

And

Growing in intimacy and hearing God

SPEAKER_01

and you know, um what really helped me, I remember listening to Joyce Meyer, and I know this is not everyone's story, but I remember her talking about you know, I'm was so blessed because the Lord led me to listen to the right messages at the right time, and I remember her talking about intimacy with God, and I was just like, What? And um, I grew uh quickly in my relationship with the Lord um through hearing him and and I learned his voice. And um I I understand that that's not everyone's uh not everyone has that kind of story, but it doesn't mean that it's not for you. Yeah, hearing God's voice and his intimacy and his friendship, you can have that. You don't have to be a mature Christian to have that, you can have that from the get-go. And and actually, darling, if I can share a little bit, I also immediately I remember the first desire I had was to preach the gospel. Wow, it was to preach the gospel. I remember I had a I was like, I've got to tell people about this. What I this is what I've been missing out on, and um, that's not to say that you know I was perfect afterwards, that I I walked out, you know, I I was radically changed, absolutely. I was convinced that Jesus is God, absolutely. I knew that he saved me and I'm you know on the cross, and I knew that my I was not turning back, not turning back. But then the Lord started renewing my mind, and then slowly um I started renewing my mind in relation in in dating. And I remember the Lord started dealing with me to be single for a year, you know, to try and renew my mind, so I'm not constantly trying to chase her. It gave me a desire for marriage, and then slowly this I walked out of different sins that you know that can entrap us, and before you know it, within um a year, there's the certain things that I used to do, I just didn't have a desire to do them anymore. So to encourage you and those of us that you know, because babe, don't you agree that when someone gets saved there has to be some kind of change, a visible change?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, absolutely. When somebody gives their life to the Lord and they've truly, in a sense, understood the commitment that they make and what it means to be born again. A transformation should take place in your life. I th I think there's a there's always an issue, is if somebody, you know, says they've given their life to the Lord, but then you don't see their life changing in any sort of way, and they're still exactly the same.

SPEAKER_01

And no desire, no, no passion, not even a desire for change. I I uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

No, but that's great, darling. And now that people have gotten to know a little bit about me, there's so much of my testimony, but it would it'll be ours. We don't have ours. But now that people have gotten to know a little bit about me, what about you? How did you what were you like when you were just growing up? As how did your life start? And um as you were maybe like in your first ten years of of life, did you know anything about God?

SPEAKER_00

And

Josh’s upbringing in a Christian home

SPEAKER_00

yeah, so um for me I was born in South Africa and Durban, but I don't remember it. I moved to France when we were when I was about after seven months, and we lived there for about three, four years. Um but again I don't remember really any of France. I was still quite small at that age. Um and so yeah, I don't remember, but then when I was about three or four, we moved across to England, and we yeah, so England is basically where I know, hence why I don't have a South African accent and I can't speak French. Um but yeah, I grew up in in England, and my mum and dad are Christians.

SPEAKER_01

So you so you grew up in a Christian home?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, my mum and dad are solid Christians, they've been Christians for many, many years, and they've worked with the Lord for well for decades, and they carry such wisdom. They do and uh and yeah, they're solid Christians. Um, but yeah, even so, I grew up in a in church, they would take me to youth group, they would take me to church on a Sunday.

SPEAKER_01

Um So wait, so before we go to youth, because now that's that's within that's like in your teens, how did you know about God when you were like a child?

SPEAKER_00

I don't necessarily remember that, to be honest. But to be fair, I don't really remember much of my first ten years of life, to be honest. I remember maybe banging my head once or twice and falling off my bike, but I don't remember much else about that, to be honest.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so let's move to and now you started going to youth. Well, how did you feel going to church? Was it something that was forced upon you?

Going to youth for the wrong reasons

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, to be honest, uh I wouldn't say forced, but because my mum and dad were going to church, I would go, and I remember I would go to youth group, um, but I was going for totally the wrong reasons. I'll be honest with you guys. I wasn't going to learn about God. Um, I was going to play games with my friends and mess around with my friends, and I'll be honest with you, I mean my friends were quite naughty at youth. We actually once made, or maybe more than once, we actually made one of the youth leaders cry because of just how naughty and mischievous we were. And we just were not interested in God in a sense, we were we just wanted to mess around and laugh and a joke, and I feel I felt, yeah, looking back now, and obviously as a as a changed person, you know, I I just we put some of those youth leaders through it, my goodness. But they were so patient and graceful with us, and looking back without them even realizing, they definitely taught me the love of God with how patient they were even when we weren't interested.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so what made you what stopped you from taking that step as a youth? Um, what's what was it that stopped you from taking that step to towards Jesus? So, is it that you did no one share the gospel to you? Why didn't you believe in him?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's not that nobody had shared the gospel with me. As I say, I'm sure my mum and dad would have spoken to me often about God. I remember, you know, at Christmas they would talk about what is the meaning of Christmas and stuff, and you know, what is the meaning of Easter. So I remember having all of that when I was growing up, but for me, I just kind of remember thinking that I probably wasn't maybe ready for it, or I just didn't really have an interest in it at that point. Maybe I was too immature, I don't know. I just didn't I just wasn't interested, and I remember as soon as I reached 15 and 16, you know, and I was old enough to make my own decisions, I just totally went away from from youth, you know, from youth from church, and I would you know go and play rug. I I was playing rugby at that point, and I would go and play rugby, and maybe some of you know, but when you play rugby, it can be quite a rough crowd. There's you know a lot of drinking and stuff involved, and so I would be drinking and you know, partying and you know, going to nightclubs and stuff, and you know, it's not great, not good, and you know, I'd be smoking as well, smoking weed. I ended up in some you know, a couple of lot wrong relationships that I shouldn't have been in as well. Um, and so yeah, it was just I was kind of living life in my own strength.

SPEAKER_01

So looking back, before we get to your test to your south when you actually encountered the Lord, um what was life without God like looking back?

Realizing there must be more to life

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no good question. Um So I remember there was a time when I was actually you know I had this thought this thought sometimes, but I I'm a builder a builder, and I uh at this point in my life I was working on a building site, and I remember I was laying bricks actually on site, and I remember thinking to myself, my goodness, is this what life is all about? Just going to work and then coming home, going out drinking on the weekend, or you know, having a weekend and then working five days a week again, and then coming back, you know what I mean? And I just remember thinking, my goodness, there has to be more to life than this, and so I think I was deep down I've always known that there was a God, that there was more to life than this. I knew that I think I had a deep down knowing that you know there was truth to who g who Jesus was, but I had just been running from from it, and as I said, I was living life in my own strength.

SPEAKER_01

Right, wow, that's interesting. All right, so then tell us how you encountered Jesus, and I think it's good for you to go into some detail on this and how you what led you to that, you know. Um, so yeah.

Josh’s encounter with Jesus

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so I as I had said, I had been in some relationships that weren't, you know, weren't good for me, and I ended up I I broke up with it from one relationship, I'd been in a four-year relationship with someone, and I it ended, and I had a friend who had invited me to church and he spoke to me, you know, about Jesus. We had been friends for a long, long time, and so we'd still sometimes meet at meet up and go for a drink and hang out and that. But you know, he had come to Christ and he had been following the You know, he had been following the Lord.

SPEAKER_01

How long was he following the Lord at this point?

SPEAKER_00

I think he'd been following the Lord about two or three years at this point. Um Yeah, so he we had still been meeting up on that, and I had seen how the Lord had been a little bit had been ta changing his life and transforming his life and that, but as I say, I'd been running from it. But anyway, we met up and he invited me to church with him and he said, you know, I remember we spoke about Jesus, and he said to me, if you want Jesus to come into your life, you have to take that step towards him. And so I remember it got to this. I was in this church with him and they did the preach, and it got to the point where they do an altar call, which is where they invite people to the front to pray for them. If anyone doesn't know, yeah. And so I thought, you know what, I'm gonna go up to the front because I want to find out if there's any truth in this in this Jesus. You know, I almost thought I want to know once and for all if Jesus, you know, are you if you really are alive today, if you really did die on the cross for me, if you are who you say you are. And so, yes, I admit, I almost I was almost like challenging God in my heart a little bit, saying, God, all right, if you're real, show yourself to me. And I remember um this guy who was actually doing worship in the church, he came I went up to the front to receive prayer. And this guy is Pastor Danny. Hi, Pastor Danny, and yeah, he actually uh in the middle of a worship set he felt like God told him to come off stage to pray for me, and so he came off stage and started praying for me. And um, yeah, this might sound a bit wild to some of you if you've not experienced this before, but as he prayed for me, the presence of God came over me and I fell on the floor and I felt like I was underwater, and all of my sins and all my mistakes was washed off from me. And from that moment, my life has never been the same. I've completely been changed and transformed, and I'll share more about that in a second. But I remember I came in a bit depressed and sad as I came into the service, a bit miserable. But I remember that as I left that service, I was in the car with my friend. We were driving back home, and I remember saying to him, I need the fire of God, I need the fire of God, I need more of God. And as I and I mean, God got a hold of me so quickly, and my life changed ra radically.

SPEAKER_01

That that is so powerful. It must have been uh your friend must uh your friend Kurt must have been very, very like almost surprised.

Radical hunger for God after salvation

SPEAKER_00

I think he was shocked to be honest. He had been praying for me for so long, for so long to come to Jesus, but then for it when it finally happened, I think it caught him so off guard and uh and he was so shocked at the the transformation that I think it took him quite a while to catch up to it and to realise that okay, Josh is serious, because when I say that I was serious, you know, I was like Sarah, I was so hungry for the word of God. I was so hungry to learn and seek God. I was ringing up my friend, and you know, I would be going to his house and we'd be praying together, we'd be reading the Bible together, and I remember, you know, even in my room, I was so hungry for God, I'd be putting worship music on and crying out for God, saying, God, I need more of you. Fill me, Lord, fill me with you, fill me afresh. And I remember one time I was crying out saying, Give me a baptism of your fire, give me a baptism of your fire. And I remember I would have so many encounters in my room with the Lord. And yeah, the Lord, I would encounter the Lord so powerfully and radically in my room when I was by myself often.

SPEAKER_01

That's wonderful. That's wonderful. You know, actually, it's such a blessing. Um, and and and it never takes away from someone else's experience of God when they become saved. Everyone's experience is different. Um, but that sounds like it was that sounds radical and amazing. And so, okay, so one of the things I'm hearing from actually your conversation, what you're saying is just the beauty of the fact that your friend even dared asked you to go to church and share the gospel with you. What if what if he never brought you? What if he never asked you? And it's interesting. I know sometimes we get scared to ask our loved ones or our friends, come to church because maybe they're gonna say no, or they might think that we're being pushy. But isn't it amazing that he took that he took that chance and asked you, and it was a it was a set time for you, yeah, you know, no absolutely to receive Jesus. So, okay, so how since then it's been about six years, how six years, yeah. Yeah, how has your life been with Jesus?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah,

What God changed in Josh’s life

SPEAKER_00

so man, God has done so much and I could share so much, and but I'm not going to all that's gonna be here for a long, long time. But as I say, God, you know, especially in the beginning, God, you know, broke so much off me. I stopped swearing, I stopped smoking. Um I you know, I stopped wanting to sin and I was trying to, you know, follow God, and little by little God was just breaking stuff off me. And you know, little by little, but I had such a hunger for me, you know. I got involved in going out on the streets a bit like you. I had such a desire, even though I was petrified and I was afraid I was trying to share the gospel with you know, share Jesus with with my work colleagues and with my you know friends and family members and stuff. And yeah, my life has just been a massive, you know, the Lord has just taken me on such a journey. And I'm sure over as we do more podcasts, you'll hear about the journeys that the journey that we've been on and what God's done in our lives. But all I will say is, my goodness, God has taken me on one big adventure.

SPEAKER_01

And I I remember when I when I met him, I thought, my goodness, how long this guy's mature, how long has he been walking with the Lord? And I found out it wasn't that long, and I thought, oh wow, like you know, you you don't have to be growing in God is um also kind of dependent on us as well, isn't it? How much time we put in and walking with him and how hungry we are for him, and and so you don't have to wait until you're 60 years in the Lord to be a mature Christian. Um, how how how much you want to go in God depends also on putting time in and how hungry you are, how hungry you are for him.

SPEAKER_00

God responds to hunger, he does, and you know, yeah, you can have as much of God as you want. That's the reality.

SPEAKER_01

And that's

Sharing the gospel and invitation to salvation

SPEAKER_01

so true. And I think we just want to encourage anyone, you know, watching. Um, if these testimonies have touched on your thinking, because we we're we were we are ordinary people just like you. I was in uni, going about my business in in sin, uh taking, you know, smoking with my friends, and life was just very oh so empty without him. And the best thing that I have ever gotten is having a Holy Spirit encounter me in God and knowing the gospel, knowing what Jesus did. And so if you are somebody out there and you don't know Jesus, and you um maybe you are a lukewarm Christian or you're a church-going Christian, but you don't know, you you're not saved, what we've described to you sounds almost unfamiliar to you. We want to tell you that Jesus Christ is alive today, and God became a man more than 2,000 years ago, he became a human being to save us from our sins, to save us from the grip of sin and death, so that we may be in oneness and have communion and fellowship and a relationship with him. You know, the Bible says that to him who have believed, to them who have believed, God will give them the power, the actually the the Bible says the authority to become sons of God. And so, Danny, why don't you carry on with the with sharing the gospel and and what that means?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so you see, we've every single one of us has sinned, and our sin separates us from God. No matter how good we've tried to be, we've all sinned, we've all done stuff that we know's not right, and our sin separates us from God. It's the exact opposite of nature, but God loved us so much that Jesus came to this earth and he never sinned, he never did anything wrong, but yet he died on that cross for humanity, for you and for me. And he was buried and he rose again after three days, and he's alive today. Yes, and he sat at the right hand of the Father. And you see, when we put our faith and our trust in Jesus, we can receive forgiveness for our sins. Yeah, we can receive eternal life, but more importantly, our relationship is restored to him, we become sons and daughters of God, and we can know him as a friend and a father. He loves to talk to us, we can you can experience his presence and his peace. And so I want to encourage you that if there's anyone that's listening and you've don't yet know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, I want to encourage you that if you reach out to him and say, Jesus, if you're real to me, will you show me how much you love me? Will you show me who you are? Like I did. I said, God, if you're real, will you reveal yourself to me? I promise you, if you do that with a sincere heart, Jesus will reach out to you and show you how much he loves you because he loves you and he cares about you and he wants to be a part of your life. But like me, I and I, I had to make that decision to let him into my heart. Absolutely. You have that choice of whether you let him into your heart.

SPEAKER_01

You do, and and I think just to even go a bit a step further and say, guys, you know, you you don't have to wait until you go to church for someone to for you to receive Jesus into your heart. You can literally just pray a prayer. Jesus, I believe you're the Son of God. I believe you came to earth as a man, fully man, fully God, to die for my sins. Jesus or Father, I believe that you're, you know, you're alive today, and I receive you now as my Lord and Savior. Come into my heart, you know, and make me brand new. And if you pray that, if you pray that sincerely and you believed it, you have become a brand new creation. The Bible says if any man is in Christ, he is a new creature. The old has passed away, the new has begun. And so if you have prayed that prayer and if you've sincerely believed in what we shared with you, please write to us. We can you know forward you to a church close to you, or we can share some resources with you. Um and let us know how this podcast has blessed you. So, honey, um Yeah, and so I was gonna say maybe we can pray for them before we close, maybe.

Prayer for listeners

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, Father, we just pray that if there's anyone listening, that we pray that you will use this testimony just to touch their hearts, and that if there's anyone that's uh giving their lives to you, I just pray that you will that you will pour your love upon them, that they will encounter you, that you will reveal yourself to them. And so, yeah, we just pray, Father, that you will do what only you can do, and we give you all the glory in Jesus' name.

Closing

SPEAKER_00

Amen. Yeah, and so thanks, guys, so much for listening. We pray that you've been blessed by our testimonies and the gospels. And until next time, God bless. Bye.